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The Old New Ladies of Kuwait November 30, 2007

Posted by Deera Chat Family in culture, family, Podcast.
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Men always complain that woman back in the old days were cooking better food and take better care of thier husbands. Woman back then had more time to stay home and teach themselves how to do lots of different things within the house parameters. things have changed now and woman found themselves new things to occupy their lives with which, in alot of the cases, is as important as family. so we talked about this topic this week and we also would like to hear of your thoughts if you have any

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1. BeDoOr - December 1, 2007

Mar7aba πŸ˜€
welcome back … o ya36eekom el 3afyaa .. :))

Ali : what’s you’re new smart phone ? … you’re smart already i thought you’re using smart phones since years ago ! πŸ˜›

topic ,

education : for sure education is diff. now than before .. now ladies and families insist that their kids get the best education possible to be something big in the world later on .. and i think the media showed that women from all over the world are taking over in some tough positions and jobs .. so it sent the msg for all the new/young generation to do something similar and be Big and think big .. not only be concerned with the family .. but i personally think .. the Samrt woman and the best wife can deal with the family and her kids .. it needs so much time i know and lots and lots of efforts .. but it can happen πŸ™‚
nothing better to have a nice healthy family in this sick world and yet going every morning to the job and being successfull in both life and work .

Job : if the education is great and the morals are rich and healthy .. then this woman will end up in a good position of course .. again .. i think the media and the easy transportation between the world ca

2. BeDoOr - December 1, 2007

Mar7aba πŸ˜€
welcome back … o ya36eekom el 3afyaa .. :))

Ali : what’s you’re new smart phone ? … you’re smart already i thought you’re using smart phones since years ago ! πŸ˜›

topic ,

education : for sure education is diff. now than before .. now ladies and families insist that their kids get the best education possible to be something big in the world later on .. and i think the media showed that women from all over the world are taking over in some tough positions and jobs .. so it sent the msg for all the new/young generation to do something similar and be Big and think big .. not only be concerned with the family .. but i personally think .. the Samrt woman and the best wife can deal with the family and her kids .. it needs so much time i know and lots and lots of efforts .. but it can happen πŸ™‚
nothing better to have a nice healthy family in this sick world and yet going every morning to the job and being successfull in both life and work .

Job : if the education is great and the morals are rich and healthy .. then this woman will end up in a good position of course .. again .. i think the media and the easy transportation between the world countries .. showed the woman that everything is possible ..

i know some men are still liking the old version of the women .. in which she stays at home and cook and educate and help and all that jazz .. i personally think , if there is a good man that can make his wife live like a queen and bays for her pills and let her need no one .. then why not .. let her be the best wife and mother she can be .. πŸ™‚
but i guess having a working wife .. help both of them .. and secure them financially for years ..im still single i dont know what its like to like planing financial stuff for a family .. but life gets harder each day and kuwait deserves from both men and women to work hard and hard …

the episode is cut suddenly in the middle of mesaed’s speech
.. so i’ll continue my comment when its fixed . ;P

3. BeDoOr - December 1, 2007

its pays not bays*

4. Kaileena - December 1, 2007

Alot of things changed and not just Women’s status in Kuwait..actually these changes have a huge role in the transformation of women’s status here! Life and its demands changed since back then..ya3ne you don’t expect a woman not to ensure her future by proper education and a safe job since times have changed o mithil ma the women changed..the men changed as well!

5. Deera Chat Family - December 2, 2007

Badoor:
hello there how are you, its been so long, we missed your comments πŸ™‚ we killed the dog that bit you πŸ˜‰ any ways with regard to the topic, this is one small angle of the big picture, there are a lot of things that need to be considered in new relationships, the best option would be that both sides agree to a certain amount of compromise which both sides are comfortable with.

as you said there are more balls to juggle in the air, which means its very difficult to do a good job with all of them. house, family husband, self, friends… its too much. some times sacrifice something for the sake of greater good. its challenging.

Kaileena:
you are right, change is coming, all the time, however, when you want to embrace change, make sure you do it at an acceptable level to your partner. meaning, if the job require late hours of work, or lots of traveling. the husband must be comfortable with such a job. on the other hand, the husband must not close all the doors as well. its a give and take thing. in the past, our fathers didnt have to bother with this at all. it was my way or the highway.

6. Salah - December 2, 2007

Hey guys, good topic. However, I started to notice something. You bring one of the most debatable and firing topics, but you guys (specially you bo 7seen) are trying so hard not to “fire up” the topic by not being very open to your opinions.

I admire the way you guys are careful in presenting your thoughts, and I know that your not holding back with saying what you want to say, but we want to hear somethings to satisfy the topic and make it more interesting.

For example, bo 7seen I know that the subject needs thinking to take a side about the whole woman thing; but I know for sure that everyone has an opinion from the top of his mind that might be wrong or right, but it’s there. So why not say it and even defend it! Maybe we at least get to see how women really feel when it comes to hating their new life styles or loving it.

Also it would be great if you guys post voice-comments related to the topic from people who don’t mind it of course.

7. erzulie - December 4, 2007

I think you guys could have touched upon much more things. You seemed to go around in circles and I can only pick out a few points that stood out regardless of their strength and standing. As a side note, not all Kuwaiti women flit around town to shop for the next It-bag or fashion item. Kuwaiti women are very diverse and segmented and generalizing is not the best way to go about it as well as in every other topic.

One quality that I see in Kuwaiti women is perseverance. Now, many women in our society have the opportunity to pick and choose how they want to lead their life career-wise. However, I personally think that once a woman has children of her own, they should be the first thing on her and her husband’s priority list. Why bring a human being into this world of ours if you don’t have time to care for him or her? It’s downright neglect.

You need a woman on your show :P~

8. q8tiya - December 5, 2007

Hey,

I agree with erzulie, while I appreciate the podcasts and the issues discussed, as a woman I am annoyed, to put it mildly, when I hear the commentators almost unquestioningly buy into several stereotypes when it comes to women.

You sound like nice and well-educated gentlemen but try taking into consideration what your wives, sisters, mothers, and other females have to say about these issues. We don’t wake up in the morning thinking about getting a new wardrobe nor do we all indulge in gossip concerning other women who may not be fashionistas.

Many, if not most, women are actually more concerned with bigger issues, ranging in variety from education and family, to politics and economy, even the environment and I assure that I’m barely scratching the surface. This may come as somewhat of a surprise to some, but women do not derive their identity nor their decisions for that matter from emotion, we are very familiar with logic and rational thinking.

This comment is one of anger rather it is one of insight. I realize that there were no ill intentions here nor any disrespect towards women and I by no means wish to make our commentators roll their eyes and yell “never again!” when it comes to issues pertaining to women. I simply wish to implore the kind commentators to please keep the above in mind and hopefully build a stronger firewall that can stop those utterly misguiding stereotypes from working their way into their podcast. Looking forward to your next podcast. Ya36eekum il3afiya oo mwafigeen inshallah.

Finally, I apologize for having posted a comment with seemingly no end in sight = )

9. q8tiya - December 5, 2007

Sorry I meant to say “this comment is NOT one of anger”. Sincere apologies.

10. Deera Chat Family - December 5, 2007

Saleh:
thank you for you comments, yes we do try to be objective in our shows as much is possible but a little argument does not hurt. I totally agree. as for the voice comments, it seems that our listeners are a bit shy to leave a voice comment for us, so we have non to record. you can be the first πŸ™‚

erzulie:
thank you for your comment, when we read comments like yours that means we succeeded in stimulating your interest in our topic.
We, Deera Chat Family always try to cover as much ground as possible in around ten minutes time, however, this does not mean that we cannot tackle complex topics. we want to put our ideas out there and have our listeners debate it. thats our objective.

now about the topic, I think we covered most aspects of modern Kuwaiti women life. mind you, we are not saying that modern women are only after fashion and neglect there family and household, but the truth is, they’re still have to worry about fashion and other thing in life which our mothers and grandmother did not have to worry about. this is way it is not fair to compare women now with women then. I agree with you that each women should have a priority list of here live objectives to be able to balance things out.

we would love to have a women presence in our show, if you are interested, drop us a line and we will gladly arrange it πŸ™‚ once again thank you for you comment.


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